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Re: De-registering car nonsense...

Postby Dreadlock » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:00 am

Hi iamani,

No complement was intended, it was simply a statement of facts as I determine them. Likewise I in no way intended to illicit an egoic response from you. How you
choose to respond to another's post is entirely up to you and completely beyond my control - though your presumption that I was complementing you does seem a child born of ego.

I wish your response to my post, dated Mon Mar 13, had been an honest one. Instead, having failed in your deception, you chose to bring the topic to
an end by agreeing to disagree and thereby keeping the deception intact for those without the discernment to see it. An honest and intelligent man would have accepted the truth put before him and admitted he was wrong. Unfortunately only one of the aforementioned characteristics applies to you.

I truly wish you the best of luck with your development - though you really should try another path. The one you currently follow leads to a light that blinds.
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Re: De-registering car nonsense...

Postby cassandra » Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:50 pm

iamani wrote:Hi dreadlock

Logically, everything is at least two things simultaneously. If you prefer an established physics theory, check out Schroedinger’s cat....

Cheers!


This is incorrect.
In quantum physics a particle has the capacity to be two things, but not simultaneously. It was observed that if an observer looked for a wave - he found a wave. If he looked for a particle - he found a particle. It was either or - not both at the same time. Hence they conceived the term WAVICLE to describe the inchoate form of the potential.
In the matter of Schroedinger's cat - an idea he took from Wittgenstein, by the way, who talked about a beetle in a box and which was itself taken by Wittgenstein from Descartes - the hypothetical cat had the capacity, or possibility, of being either alive or dead. This was the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle - the observer affects the observed - we don't know for certain until we look, and it's only when we look that the fixed state comes into being. Until we look, there is no fixed state, only a possibility of one. When it was a particle it was a particle. When it was a wave it was a wave. It never was, and cannot ever be, both simultaneously.

As Tennyson said
The hills are shadows, and they flow
From form to form, and nothing stands;
They melt like mist, the solid lands,
Like clouds they shape themselves and go.
Cassandra.
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Re: De-registering car nonsense...

Postby iamani » Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:32 pm

Hi cassandra

You may not believe this but - no s#!t - i'm glad to see you back. i was starting to miss your contributions.

Thanks for the well-reasoned rebuttal to my statement. i won't argue with what you've written as i believe it to be truth as best we know it, although i will point out that i was actually thinking of the conclusion they reached with that experiment.

My take on the conclusion is that they were saying the cat must be one or the other (ie. alive or dead), and that as it was impossible to reasonably assume it was neither, and that they could not correctly assume one state over the other (would only be a guess at best - unscientific assumption) the only possibly correct assumption they could make is that it is BOTH simultaneously. If i am verifiably incorrect in my view, i hope you will accept it is offered in good faith and not an attempt to deceive my fellow man, and maybe you can offer correction in the same good faith.

To be honest though i am starting to question the validity of quantum theory (which is a shame as i have enjoyed it) for several reasons, one of which is that it seems like a face-saving cop-out on the part of the scientists.

i also wrote 'logically everything is at least two things simultaneously'. As it is my view that in this realm of 3D existence we find ourselves in we exist in 'duality'. Again, opinion, but it seems to stand under logic as far as i can tell.

Cheers!
law is all is love is all is law
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Re: De-registering car nonsense...

Postby cassandra » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:18 pm

I'm not back - not as such. I'm far too busy. I just popped in to look for a moment and saw the physics and I wanted to comment.
Naseem Haramein. You tube his Black Whole.

Einstein hated Quantum physics but it was his work which created the possibility of the theory being produced. His own work - The General Theory of Relativity is fundamentally flawed. His theory requires that the speed of light be constant. If it isn't then the theory fails. In his theory, light is affected by gravity - which demonstrates that light has mass - and a thing affected by gravity is subject to changes in velocity. The speed of light, according to his own theory, cannot therefore be constant. He knew this, but his theory demanded a constant speed for light so he ignored himself and gave it it. One thing cannot be two things simultaneously. Light has mass - or light-speed is constant.
The Doppler Effect demonstrates conclusively that light has mass, experiences velocity changes and that the fundamentals of Einstein's GTR are flawed. Look at the Red Shift in astronomy. Light coming to us is blue. Light going away is red. The Red Shift tells us which way a distant star is rotating and whether it is travelling away or towards us.
The movement creates a change in light-wave frequency.
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