Why we do what we do.

Why we do what we do.

Postby holy vehm » Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:39 am

Taken from another thread and provided by huntingross.

"Therefore, there is only one argument that can be validly applied to the American
government. It rules because it has the power to rule. This is the justification
of brute force. Every law, rule, or bit of legislation enacted at federal, state,
or local level is backed up by the ultimate threat of death. That may sound like an
extreme statement, yet it is true, and applies even to traffic citations.

Let us suppose that a person has received a summons because he has allegedly
violated some statute, law or ruling. He decides that the summons is unjust and
that he will not obey. The men in government decide that they will compel him
to obey.

Clearly, it is always possible for men in or out of government to change their
minds. The government can fail to prosecute, and a man who decides he will not
submit to prosecution may ultimately decide to do so. But let us assume that both
sides remain adamant.

What ensues? Legal formalities will be followed, of course. The unwilling target
of the prosecution will receive a series of warnings, each more harsh than the
last. Finally, since he will not obey, he will be physically arrested. But if he submits
to arrest, he is in fact obeying. Therefore, he must resist arrest or confinement.
Ultimately, he will be shot for resisting arrest or for trying to escape. The shot
may not be fatal. But unless the man submits, he must keep trying to escape.
In the end, death will be inflicted.

The ultimate truth is that even a traffic citation is backed up by an appeal to
ultimate force to the point where death makes obedience impossible."

This is the world we live in or rather the society we live in, comply or die.

If the society does not listen to peacefull protest at its disfunction, its corruption and its brutality then THEY only leave us the options of either doing nothing or violent uprising. The path of peace has been allowed its opportunity to prevail, we are nearing a point in our time when a decision will need to be made, do nothing or rise up. We will not bring violence to the front line, we will line up in peace but in the past when the brutal foot soldiers of the state attack us and are met with nothing more than peaceful protest, the future holds a picture where those brutal soldiers of the state are set upon. Some will be brought to justice, others will not, as justice will be dished out there and then, it merely depends on whom gets to them first.
Battons and bullets only prevail where fear of them prevails, take away the fear of injury and death and the batton and the bullet are useless tools of control. Lets see what OUR government does to the people of this country when we rise up just like in libya or tunisia, lets see if OUR government allows democracy to take its path. I suspect OUR government will do much more than the libyian or tunisian government is alleged to have done.
What has happened in devon is the same sort of thing OUR government tells us is the reason THEY send OUR people to war. Handcuffing and chaining to a wall an innocent and peacefull women is not what OUR government is given remit to do, it is acting outside of the 'public interest.

I was at the first birkenhead protest, the court was siezed, perhaps it is soon time to start doing the same to police stations and holding facilities where the innocent are held, tortured and processed. Lawful excuse, to commit a crime in order to prevent a more serious crime.

This country has seen what happens when police and government sanction abuse and corruption prevail. Through out the 60s 70s and 80s this country saw some major social uprising, moss side, toxteth, brixton, st pauls (bristol) and bridgewater farm to name a few. These did not start because of piss poor housing or low employment, they all started because of government sanction police brutality. The peoples response was swift and brutal and very violent. It took the entire 1990s before the police could enter those areas again without full backup.
One hot summer and one case of police brutality to far and it will ignite the tinderbox of emotions in this country, it will be swift, organised, brutal and very violent. Some people will show no mercy others will look for justice.

We are the voice of the resistance and we will not be silenced, we will not be beaten and we will not lose.
"A ruler who violates the law is illegitimate. He has no right to be obeyed. His commands are mere force and coercion. Rulers who act lawlessly, whose laws are unlawful, are mere criminals".
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Re: Why we do what we do.

Postby newmannewy » Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:59 am

Its called the monopoly on violence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly_on_violence


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