Radio Based Internet

Re: Radio Based Internet

Postby the_common_law_reverend_kenny » Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:22 pm

Not radio, but a promising development in P2P communications...

Zfone – Is a free encryption software product that works with VIOP providing PGP level encryption for your computer-to-computer conversations and chats. Zfone is a project designed and run by Phillip Zimmerman the inventor of PGP, Pretty Good Encryption which has for many years been a trusted encryption program (the open source versions anyway and yes Zfone is open source). Zfone is still in beta, we tested it and we like it. Zfone will also operate with: X-Lite, XMeeting, Google Talk, and SJphone,y.messenger.


http://zfoneproject.com/getstarted.html

context...

http://www.panamalaw.org/secure_encrypted_communications_with_panama_legal_law_firm.html

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Re: Radio Based Internet

Postby the_common_law_reverend_kenny » Sat May 29, 2010 1:24 pm

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Re: Radio Based Internet

Postby joefree » Sat May 29, 2010 3:43 pm

the_common_law_reverend_kenny wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinternet linking also to the thread http://forum.fmotl.com/viewtopic.php?f=75&t=5609


Thanks for this post - for some reason I had missed the original posts about hinternet. I like the idea of using hinternet with freenet http://freenetproject.org/to create a truly free internet. Does anyone have any ideas on this?
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Re: Radio Based Internet

Postby the_common_law_reverend_kenny » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:46 pm

http://freenetproject.org/ still think it's a great one. Just running it again now.
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Re: Radio Based Internet

Postby ArturoDekko » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:37 am

Sounds reasonable Rev. :grin:

One concern - "Once again Google's Open Source team has donated US$18,000 to the Freenet Project to support the ongoing development of the Freenet software." -Why would google be donating unless it thought it could gain something from it?

I have 74GB of hard drive used and 37GB free. It is my experience that when over 2/3 rds of hard drive are used, things start slowing down. Do you think I can afford to donate some of my hard drive to Freenet?

I have 1 GB RAM but often have many windows and progs running together which already gets slow sometimes. Will this make it even slower? I know you can turn it off but that kinda defeats the purpose of being an active mode.

Are you active on this? How do you find friends?

There may well be other solutions forthcoming but this is up and running now and seems ideal for Freeman activities. Can we mirror this site there?
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Re: Radio Based Internet

Postby the_common_law_reverend_kenny » Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:13 am

You are right there is massive interest and as per usual Google have their fingers in the pie. I have always known that the 'public' internet has limited time to live. So the big industries are getting ready to accommodate the private internet user. For them:
-there is a $ sign on selling privacy
-there is a real desire to control the system of privacy

The software system itself 'freenet' is sound and yes we could run something similar that relied on everybody's PC/mac being turned on. (On freenet you get friends by starting a private ring), if no members are online the sites in the ring are not accessible) Freenet is software. It is not the only software that does what it does, If you're interested we can test a few? There are quite a few solutions already here.

Yes we can share our processors and disk space (within limits) (otherwise we rely on foreign servers forever, when infact our own machines can serve. Better still an old machine in the corner can serve)....infact it looks like that is a major way to go. I think there is enough publicly available information out there. I don't think we need to mirror this site, I think there are a few threads that could do with extreme encrypted anonymous privacy as they are sensitive subjects. Often I feel we need to speak privately to tie down finer points. We are a diverse bunch though, and spread far and wide over the island and globe. Adding a level of encryption can not be a bad thing...It is time. :shh:
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Re: Radio Based Internet

Postby Freeman Stephen » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:28 pm

tls encryption is not secure because the transport providers can intercept the handshake where the certificates are initially swapped by less secure means. While the certificates could be swapped offline and installed via a pen drive for example, its well known that the certificates could be calculated from a recording of an encrypted conversation using a standard desktop pc over a period of ten years. If you are not restricted to one bog standard techology computer it will not take a decade to read everything thats been recorded. We should use an encryption method of our own making and consider using laser rather than radio transport since this would allow us to detect interceptions.
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Re: Radio Based Internet

Postby ArturoDekko » Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:23 pm

Good thinking on the old PC Rev, except that mine is an old mac, not that that makes any difference, was thinking of booting it up and running ubuntu on it anyway.

Good points Freeman S. Encryption key can only be caught if they know there is one. Key could easily be sent hidden in a photo for instance. OK you can find it if you look but do they have the processor power to look that deeply into everything?

Not sure how much encryption is needed. Most of the time, the only thing they will find is that we are onto their game and that is not a bad thing. The more a lie in uncovered, the less it can stay alive. The more a lie is exposed, the more desperate they become. The more desperate they are, the more obvious the lie becomes. A wonderful self defeating cycle for them :giggle: There are too many of us now to all be suicided.
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Re: Radio Based Internet

Postby the_common_law_reverend_kenny » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:22 pm

this is a good conversation to have peer 2 peer
http://psst.sourceforge.net/

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With PSST, your private messages don't go through any server - they are peer to peer, direct from your PC to the PC of the person you're talking to. Also, they're encrypted, meaning that nobody without a lot of expensive resources can eavesdrop on you. All encryption is handled automatically in the background, so you don't have to mess around with complicated keys and so forth.

PSST is rough-n-ready - a very basic console-based program, yet mindlessly easy to use.
You just type in the hostname or IP address of whoever you want to talk to, and you're connected. Speak Freely.
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