Hi all. Thanks for your replies.
And thank you Dreadlock for a concise summary of what most likely happened.
I just want to say that I only posted for discussion and am glad people havent accused ME of spreading misinformation, lol.
The reason you succeeded in your case has nothing to do with you "occupying the office of Executor/Administrator" as it is impossible for you to do that for the Legal Fiction bearing your name. You can only act as the trustee for that name.
I had heard something along these lines before. ie - our "estate" is the Cert of live birth, which is stolen. Were then given the Birth Cert which the queen granted and thus, she is he executor/executrix of her own property. Iv also heard one can end up in jail by trying to act as executor de son tort.
Id stopped considering executor duties after i heard that. However I have been pondering on it again.....please dont take this as argument as im merely trying to clarify and put to test the knowledge i have accumulated thus far.......
If we can create a last will and testament, and Appoint an Executor to administrate our estate when we die.......then surely we must have that power to begin with....dont we? surely we cannot afford to anyone else, something which we do not possess!
Iv never seen a last will and testament......perhaps the estate is in the name of "john of the smith family" to get around that. Any comments welcome.
Also Im curious as to the Canons on positive law that Iv come across aswell. Referring to Pitano1 comments on the Roman Cult. Is that also disinformation as far as youve found out?
Canon 3228 apparently asserts that roman courts operate under 12 presumptions. One of these is the presumption that you will act as trustee, another presumption is that the government acts as beneficiary and executor. It states that acting as an executor is not enough and you must question whether or not the judge is seeking to act as an executor de son tort.....basically before he asserts that you are. Having looked at these, many of the "presumptions" are the same presumptions rebutted by peoples NOUICOR`s. spec:
Public record - Freemen/sovereign/lawul rebels ensure the matter is recorded
Public service and public oath and judges immunity - we are demanding their oaths which rebutts these preumptions
court of guradians - we rebut this by standing for ourselves and debating points of law showing that .....
incompetence - .....we are not incompetent
Court of trustees - by refusing to act as a person "slave conveyed in trust", thus rejecting the liability "debts of the cestui que trust".
Presumptions of summons and custody - are rebutted by returning the summons and attendint by "special appearence" or invitation.
Guilt - seems to be taken care of by affidavit of truth (which were all familiar with)
and then the trickier ones....in the vain of what weve been discussing regarding Executorship.....
Government as beneficiary/executor, and..
presumption of Executor de son tort - supposedly, the Gov, try to take our place as administrator of our estates, prosecutor assumes the role of beneficiary and (apparently) this needs to be rebutted as well a questioning the judges as to whether he seeks to act as executor de son tort.
I will copy the (supposed) excerpt from Canonum de lus positivium......if it is disinfo and your a moderator, feel free to remove. It is not my wish to spread disinfo....only post here for purposes of discussion so its "to hand".
Canonum De Ius Positivum
Canons of Positive Law
7.1 Article 299 - Roman Court
Canon 3224
A Roman Court is a Forum for the exclusive private business of a Law (Bar) Guild sanctioned by the Roman Cult, also known as the Vatican, in which members of the guild presume certain roles on behalf of the "government" in order to make profit for the guild and its members through direct asset seizure and the commercialization of various securities, bonds and bailments.
Canon 3225
The meaning and source of the word "court" in respect of Roman Court is derived from the Latin word cautio meaning "securities, bond and bailment" as the primary commercial business of ancient Roman Cult sanctioned law guilds since the 13th Century.
Canon 3226
Prior to the creation of the Bar Associations in the 19th Century, the private Bar Guilds were known as "guilds" as well as "livery" companies and often by the name as Judges and Notaries since the 13th Century coinciding with the invention of Indulgences of the Roman Cult.
Canon 3227
In order to make “guild” money, called “Guilt” or “Guilty”, the Private Bar Guilds normally oversee a unique hidden trust for each controversy or “suit” that comes into the private Roman Court. Any bonds that are generated, called “Guilt bonds” are connected to the hidden trust, which the private Bar Guild members are sworn to deny exists.
The Presumption of the Court.
Canon 3228 : A Roman Court does not operate according to any true rule of law, but by presumptions of the law. Therefore, if presumptions presented... by the private Bar Guild are not rebutted they become fact and are therefore said to stand true. There are twelve (12) key presumptions asserted by the private Bar Guilds which if unchallenged stand true being Public Record, Public Service, Public Oath, Immunity, Summons, Custody, Court of Guardians, Court of Trustees, Government as Executor/Beneficiary, Executor De Son Tort, Incompetence, and Guilt:
(i) The Presumption of Public Record is that any matter brought before a lower Roman Court is a matter for the public record when in fact it is presumed by the members of the private Bar Guild that the matter is a private Bar Guild business matter. Unless openly rebuked and rejected by stating clearly the matter is to be on the Public Record, the matter remains a private Bar Guild matter completely under private Bar Guild rules; and
(ii) The Presumption of Public Service is that all the members of the Private Bar Guild who have all sworn a solemn secret absolute oath to their Guild then act as public agents of the Government, or “public officials” by making additional oaths of public office that openly and deliberately contradict their private "superior" oaths to their own Guild. Unless openly rebuked and rejected, the claim stands that these private Bar Guild members are legitimate public servants and therefore trustees under public oath; and
(iii) The Presumption of Public Oath is that all members of the Private Bar Guild acting in the capacity of "public officials" who have sworn a solemn public oath remain bound by that oath and therefore bound to serve honestly, impartialty and fairly as dictated by their oath. Unless openly challenged and demanded, the presumption stands that the Private Bar Guild members have functioned under their public oath in contradiction to their Guild oath. If challenged, such individuals must recuse themselves as having a conflict of interest and cannot possibly stand under a public oath; and
(iv) The Presumption of Immunity is that key members of the Private Bar Guild in the capacity of "public officials" acting as judges, prosecutors and magistrates who have sworn a solemn public oath in good faith are immune from personal claims of injury and liability. Unless openly challenged and their oath demanded, the presumption stands that the members of the Private Bar Guild as public trustees acting as judges, prosecutors and magistrates are immune from any personal accountability for their actions; and
(v) The Presumption of Summons is that by custom a summons unrebutted stands and therefore one who attends Court is presumed to accept a position (defendant, juror, witness) and jurisdiction of the court. Attendance to court is usually invitation by summons. Unless the summons is rejected and returned, with a copy of the rejection filed prior to choosing to visit or attend, jurisdiction and position as the accused and the existence of "guilt" stands; and
(vi) The Presumption of Custody is that by custom a summons or warrant for arrest unrebutted stands and therefore one who attends Court is presumed to be a thing and therefore liable to be detained in custody by "Custodians". Custodians may only lawfully hold custody of property and "things" not flesh and blood soul possessing beings. Unless this presumption is openly challenged by rejection of summons and/or at court, the presumption stands you are a thing and property and therefore lawfully able to be kept in custody by custodians; and
(vii) The Presumption of Court of Guardians is the presumption that as you may be listed as a "resident" or a ward of a local government area and have listed on your "passport" the letter P, you are a pauper and therefore under the "Guardian" powers of the government and its agents as a "Court of Guardians". Unless this presumption is openly challenged to demonstrate you are both a general guardian and general executor of the matter (trust) before the court, the presumption stands and you are by default a pauper, and lunatic and therefore must obey the rules of the clerk of guardians (clerk of magistrates court);
(viii) The Presumption of Court of Trustees is that members of the Private Bar Guild presume you accept the office of trustee as a "public servant" and "government employee" just by attending a Roman Court, as such Courts are always for public trustees by the rules of the Guild and the Roman System. Unless this presumption is openly challenged to state you are merely visiting by "invitation" to clear up the matter and you are not a government employee or public trustee in this instance, the presumption stands and is assumed as one of the most significant reasons to claim jurisdiction - simply because you "appeared"; and
(ix) The Presumption of Government acting in two roles as Executor and Beneficiary is that for the matter at hand, the Private Bar Guild appoint the judge/magistrate in the capacity of Executor while the Prosecutor acts in the capacity of Beneficiary of the trust for the current matter. Unless this presumption is openly challenged to demonstrate you are both a general guardian and general executor of the matter (trust) before the court, the presumption stands and you are by default the trustee, therefore must obey the rules of the executor (judge/magistrate); and
(x) The Presumption of Executor De Son Tort is the presumption that if the accused does seek to assert their right as Executor and Beneficiary over their body, mind and soul they are acting as an Executor De Son Tort or a "false executor" challenging the "rightful" judge as Executor. Therefore, the judge/magistrate assumes the role of "true" executor and has the right to have you arrested, detained, fined or forced into a psychiatric evaluation. Unless this presumption is openly challenged by not only asserting one's position as Executor as well as questioning if the judge or magistrate is seeking to act as Executor De Son Tort, the presumption stands and a judge or magistrate of the private Bar guild may seek to assistance of bailiffs or sheriffs to assert their false claim; and
(xi) The Presumption of Incompetence is the presumption that you are at least ignorant of the law, therefore incompetent to present yourself and argue properly. Therefore, the judge/magistrate as executor has the right to have you arrested, detained, fined or forced into a psychiatric evaluation. Unless this presumption is openly challenged to the fact that you know your position as executor and beneficiary and actively rebuke and object to any contrary presumptions, then it stands by the time of pleading that you are incompetent then the judge or magistrate can do what they need to keep you obedient; and
(xii) The Presumption of Guilt is the presumption that as it is presumed to be a private business meeting of the Bar Guild, you are guilty whether you plead "guilty", do not plead or plead "not guilty". Therefore unless you either have previously prepared an affadavit of truth and motion to dismiss with extreme prejudice onto the public record or call a demurrer, then the presumption is you are guilty and the private Bar Guild can hold you until a bond is prepared to guarantee the amount the guild wants to profit from you.
Based on notes from Dave Clarence training calls through October 23, 2010
Referencehttp://www.talkshoe.com/tc/39904 David Clarence with Angela
I dont know if you guys are familiar with David Clarence. I havent seen much of his stuff. I just grabbed the above when accumulating info to go through. In any case i find it good to try and consider all perspectives, even ones i dont agree with to expand my understanding of human nature.
I dont know if its easier in the US, lots of examples of executor letters etc.......but the only time you ever hear the word here is in relation to wills.
Now I only posted the above "Canons", because I want to know more. In other words, since Freemen/sovereigns/lawful rebels appear to be rebutting the vast majority of the above (alleged) "presumptions", i find it hard to reject it in its entirety, as to do so would mean to reject the accumulated works/templates of many others including Veronica, Roger Hayes etc.
Does anyone have more info on the above?
Could you send notice to a court, quoting canon law and rebutting the above presumption before you get there?
And how does the executor thing work here ie - if we can appoint one for when we die (as opposed to the queen/law society) but not have the power ourselves?
Im asking because of my situation. I earn little over £8000 a yr. Rent £5000, Gas/electric £1440, Water company want £480 council want £650. This all leaves me with the grand total of approx £500 to feed, clothe myself for the yr....not to mention telephone calls internet, bus fares etc etc.
If the Law says you need about £70 a week to live on, and at the same time asserts that I am liable to pay all these companies what they demand.....then surely it is in contradiction with itself....!!
This is what is leading me to look into these areas. If it is true that in commerce he who brings the liability must provide the remedy.....well that explains the remittances from the gas/electric company. Also the Local government finance act has the remedy embedded into it (seemingly) in section 13:
13 A Billing authority’s power to reduce amount of tax payable
(1) Where a person is liable to pay council tax in respect of any chargeable dwelling and any day, the billing authority for the area in which the dwelling is situated may reduce the amount which he is liable to pay as respects the dwelling and the day to such extent as it thinks fit.
(2)The power under subsection (1) above includes power to reduce an amount to nil.
(3)The power under subsection (1) may be exercised in relation to particular cases or by determining a class of case in which liability is to be reduced to an extent provided by the determination
This appears, at least to me to be an embedded remedy, thus meeting the conditions imposed by a chapter 1 bankruptcy regarding the "doctrine of discharge". What frustrates me is that councils will force someone out of there home and job simply because they cant afford the liability the council decides to make up that year. They need to meet their obligations and i have tried explaining to them that it is within their powers to reduce the amount to something i can afford.
I wrote to the CEO informing him of this. I have also requested their bonding company details....which they havent provided.
Summons arrived on the 26 th.
Now obviously.......Im happy to fight it (as i have no other option since compromise doesnt work). I really dont want to be written off as a slave so any info on how to "discharge", "set off" or "A4V" this liability would be great.
If what you say about executorships here is true, Is it still possible to appoint the judge a trustee and request he discharge said liability?
Ony got a few weeks so any help would be great. Im not a fully fledged freeman (if i couldnt engage at all with the system, then i simply coulndt survive,.....single lad, no one to engage on commerce for me), Iv never voted and I didnt sign the council tax application (after she infomed me it was most definately NOT a contract, but i had to sign I asked the lady why I would need to sugn.....since that would authorise a transaction of funds or bestow consent and she had informed me council tax was mandatory....if so why would they need me to sign anything?)
Anyway, rant over. Apologies. I aim to write a few lines and this happens.
Peace.