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Postby pitano1 » Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:38 pm

hi all.

rather a long story,so i shall just outline the main points.

my wife went to a solicitor,about a family matter,and at the initial meeting,she explained,that
she did not have the funds herself,to pay them,but the family member,who is non compis mentis
has.

so as the case was for the benefit,of said family member,it was agreed,that this firm could go
ahead,and represent them in court,on the basis/understanding,that my wife could not pay them
herself.


you can imagine the shock she had,when a couple of weeks ago,she received a bill for £7,488.86

i emailed the acountant,and went down the freeman route,on my wifes behalf,telling them that
any letters not addressed to the flesh,and blood,would be returned without dishonour.


a couple of days later,back comes the same letter,which i opened by mistake :psst:
resealed it,and sent it back.

WRONGLY ADDRESSED. NO CONTRACT. R.T.S
RETURNED WITHOUT DISHONOUR.

today back comes the same letter,full of the same legal mumbo jumbo,and this is what
mr wonderful has to say.

`i note that you sent back the letter and copy paperwork that i sent to you on bla bla.
it is apparrent that the envolope has been opened and then resealed with sellotape so
clearly the contents were available for reveiw

i enclose copies of these documents and urge you not to continue with this quite
ridiculous performance of not acknowledging that i have written to you.

in addition i advise that legal proceedings have now been started to recover from you the monies
owed to us.

please contact as soon as possible to resolve this matter.




now my question is,as said solicitors were supposed to be looking after my wifes
interests in court,why did they not TELL the court,that she has no money,when the judge
ordered her to pay costs ?
my wife was not present due to illness.

so that is my legal arguement..or part of.

so is it argue legally.

or stick to the flesh/blood.

ps this firm even do their own debt collecting.

any thoughts will be appreciated.
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Re: lawful or legal ?

Postby knightron » Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:38 am

Sorry to hear about your situation mate..it seems Legal proceeding have started, but are they Lawful?..Did your wife sign anything to state that she was in no position to pay these people, or that she was acting on behalf of a family member who is non compis mentis?..If so the contract stands and she will have nothing to worry about...Have you lodged a complaint with the law society about the heavy handed actions of the solicitor in question?..I would do so and explain that you need help with this company as they are using unfair tactics in trying to recover monies that are not owed by your wife...

In these situations I find using "Their" laws against them is the best way to go, as they are bound by Statutes and regulating bodies that we are not.. If a regulator receives enough complaints about a company they have to take action...Sorry I can't help further bud..Giving Advice against a solicitor is out of my league I'am afraid...Good luck ..complain complain and complain some more.. :shake: :hug:
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Re: lawful or legal ?

Postby pitano1 » Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:20 pm

many thanks for your reply knightron.

personally i feel that,until this arrogant fucker,addresses
my wife as he has been instructed..ie,of the family of.
he is going to get his documents returned..no contract.

he has been asked to send proof of contract,and instructed
how to address his threatening letters,but chose to ignore
this.

what reply did we get? a load of legal mumbo jumbo.and
him saying,we are acting rediculous.

no contract/agreement,saying my wife would pay them.

i may compose a NOTICE of conditional acceptance over
this weekend.

or ignore him,as he has ignored us,

pitano1
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Re: lawful or legal ?

Postby knightron » Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:37 am

Hi Again bud..Have you tried sending a letter telling them that you are unable to lawfully comply with their request as it is written in Legalese and thus, you not being a member of the bar or law society would be acting unlawfully if you did so, as they will understand you have no knowledge of legalese and as such cannot comply.. :giggle:
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Re: lawful or legal ?

Postby pitano1 » Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:19 am

hi again knightron.

yes,that was a thought i had as well.


i`m thinking of waiting to see what their next move is,and
then banging in a notice. `proof of claim`.

time will tell `eh

will keep you posted :shake:

many thanks.
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Re: lawful or legal ?

Postby ArturoDekko » Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:40 pm

Surely it is sufficient to point out that their contract for any payment was with another? You could always have applied for free legal help if unable to pay.
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Re: lawful or legal ?

Postby pitano1 » Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:01 pm

hi all,quick update on the con men known as `hayes and storr`

the below link contains a notice, i hand delivered on monday.18 .7 2011

my intention is to send a notice of `opportunity to cure` on day seven.

can any one help on the beginning,and ending,or point me to a template
that i can tailor.

haye and storr notice.odt



hope you dont think i`m lazy,but i`m fighting on three different fronts at the moment
ie solicitors...family on two fronts.

seems the system does not like,family taking care of their own affairs.

:love: :peace:
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ps thank you to all members who have supported me so far,as you are
the only family that treats me with respect :yes:
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Re: lawful or legal ?

Postby knightron » Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:17 pm

no Link bud???? :puzz:
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Re: lawful or legal ?

Postby pitano1 » Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:27 pm

hi knightron.
sorry bout that,bin editing :giggle:
should be ok now
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Re: lawful or legal ?

Postby knightron » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:27 pm

Any replies,`must be signd in wet ink`under full commercial liability

I would also add in there that any reply should be in the form of a sworn affidavit (as these can be rebutted, if they are not rebutted they stand as truth in law)..signed By a Human being in wet ink under penalty of perjury. Remind them too that any reply should be in Plain English not Legalese or legal terminology as you are not a member of the bar council or law society and as such are unable to lawfully understand them.
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