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Police SCREW UP AGAIN

Postby pedawson » Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:56 pm

Here is an article in the Daily Mail.
Police SCREW UP AGAIN. The police CPS were involved and it is admitted that the mistakes were made.
This IS a MSM report and the time served was correct the charge was made and the magistrates went along with it as though it was a REAL crime.
In a recent post, we have been accused of jumping on to sensational MSM press releases. This isn't a jar of coffee and the person involved was NOT a DRIVER - just a passenger.
The time served was REAL and the CHARGES were, well, ridiculous at best.

Remember we are not obliged to provide any form of identification and if there were any requirement it has to be in connection with an offence and there HAS to be reasonable suspicion.
So the coffee incident is NOT an isolated incident (Menendes) and the police are,especially in this case just making things up as they go along.
LOOKING for a reason to arrest someone. Does this RING any bells?

This proves without doubt that there are special relationships between the police and the judiciary. One may say it is necessary however in my last post I outlined the responsibility of a police constable and that they have no more powers than we do. WELL WELL WELL.

It just goes to show that those who uphold the law, and in this case it was the specialised officers in the field of TRAFFIC, do not actually know the law.

How does it go?
Magna Carta Article 45. wrote:We will appoint as justices, constables, sheriffs, or bailiffs only such as know the law of the realm and mean to observe it well.


These people (police) applied and were accepted as police constables and as such should ave a working knowledge of the law, if they don't they should err on the side of caution and only arrest when the facts are in. NOT, arrest charge and prosecute only to find what they did was wrong.

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Father-of-three spent four months in jail after being wrongly accused of having a fake photo on his driving licence

Officers thought Syed Mazoor's licence must be forged because his picture was in colour
He was arrested despite producing other ID
Mr Mazoor was charged and locked up
Magistrates then repeatedly refused him bail

By Leon Watson

A father-of-three was thrown in jail for an incredible four months after bungling police wrongly thought his provisional driving licence was fake.

Syed Manzoor was arrested by traffic police who said the document must be forged because his photo was in colour.

He was charged with fraud and refused bail because magistrates believed the asylum seeker could flee.
Innocent Syed Manzoor spent four months in Strangeways after being arrested and charged on suspicion of having a forged provisional licence - which then turned out to be real

Innocent Syed Manzoor spent four months in Strangeways after being arrested and charged on suspicion of having a forged provisional licence - which then turned out to be real

Mr Manzoor, who had no previous convictions, was held at Strangeways in Manchester until the DVLA finally confirmed his licence was genuine.

The 51-year-old said: 'It was terrifying in jail - there were fights all the time and banging and shouting. No one could believe what I was in there for.

'I'm very angry. I've never been in trouble with the police before. When I first got to Strangeways I was shaking with fear.


'I had to be moved from one cell because the other prisoner had mental health problems and was violent.

'I thought that they would quickly find out they were wrong, but as time passed I stopped hoping I would be released. When I found out I could leave I said a special thank you to God.'

Mr Manzoor's nightmare ordeal began on October 4 when police approached the Vauxhall Astrain which he was a passenger.
Mr Manzoor said he was terrified when he first entered HMP Strangeways Prison in Manchester

Mr Manzoor said he was terrified when he first entered HMP Strangeways Prison in Manchester

The driver had left the car double-parked against the flow of traffic in Oxford Road, Chorlton-on-Medlock, while he went to a cash machine.

When the traffic officers asked for ID, Mr Manzoor, who is a Pakistan national seeking political asylum in Britain, produced his provisional licence.
Mr Manzoor has no previous convictions but was thought to be flight risk because he is an asylum seeker, and so was repeatedly refused bail

Mr Manzoor has no previous convictions but was thought to be a flight risk because he is an asylum seeker, and so was repeatedly refused bail

One of the officers thought DVLA-issued licences did not have colour photos and so Mr Manzoor, of Rusholme, was arrested on suspicion of carrying a false ID document with intent - despite producing other ID including a National Insurance number, an NHS card and a bank card.

Even though photocard licences issued before 2007 do have colour pictures, Mr Manzoor was charged after interview and a night in the cells.

It is understood police contacted the DVLA but the Crown Prosecution Service made the decision to charge.

Mr Manzoor, a former merchant seaman, said he is considering legal action.

His solicitor Darren Langton, of Manchester firm Keith Dyson, said: 'Mr Manzoor is the victim of a shocking chain of events.

'It's very rare that you have someone in custody over a provisional licence. There was never a case against him - simple checks should have prevented this massive waste of money.'

Divisional Crown prosecutor Mark Callaghan said: 'A decision was made to charge the defendant with possession of a false identity document with improper intent on the evidence available at that time.'

He said the case was kept under review until the CPS received confirmation from the DVLA that the driving licence was genuine.

A DVLA spokesman said it was 'urgently investigating' the case, and that if errors had been made 'immediate action' would be taken to avoid a repeat.

Superintendent Serena Kennedy, of Greater Manchester Police, said: 'As this matter involved GMP dealing with a number of key partners, we are reviewing the full circumstances leading up to this man's arrest and charge.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2104198/Father-jailed-months-wrongly-accused-having-fake-photo-driving-licence.html
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Re: Police SCREW UP AGAIN

Postby Hoops » Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:30 pm

You will certainly find no argument from me to say that the police never screw up - any organisation made up of people will. Undeniable.

I also certainly do not trust the daily mail who I think are one of the most guilty of sensationalising stories. However, if this story is taken as fact, then I am sure this man will receive substantial compensation, which would be completely correct in my personal view. What price freedom? I would find it quite shocking that the authenticity of the license would not be easily ascertainable prior to court. DVLA seem to have equally screwed up...
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Re: Police SCREW UP AGAIN

Postby knightron » Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:51 pm

Hi Hoops..the problem is the DVLA are receiving the back up from Police at every step of the way and not investigating anything before using "force" and arresting people on hearsay evidence, its Ok saying he will be compensated after the fact, this could and should have been sorted out before he was Jailed and his life ruined..! I have been in a similar situation but I got 7 years as opposed to 4 months.!

Police should investigate all claims against a human based on Fact, not hearsay allegations..! A man can only be imprisoned with the help of the Police, Even Customs have to take a man to a Police station to be Charged before he is remanded or held in custody.! These heavy handed Police assisted tactics by DVLA need a proper and real investigation to establish exactly what their remit and authority is, as I see it they are just another "Agency" like "VOSA"(who need a Police officer to authorize a vehicle stop) and as such have no authority unless we give it to them or are forced to co-operate with them by the Police, under threat of arrest and or assault and imprisonment...

Another travesty of Justice at the hands of a more and more militarized and Thuggish Police force.!
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Re: Police SCREW UP AGAIN

Postby pedawson » Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:37 pm

I believe it is DVLA that is most to blame here, however a little common sense and less common purpose might have gone down better by the officer involved. Oh! and the judge - Brain like a pea judge.

Hoops wrote:I also certainly do not trust the daily mail who I think are one of the most guilty of sensationalising stories.

I would love to say the same but criticising the government is frowned upon - :wink:

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Re: Police SCREW UP AGAIN

Postby pedawson » Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:41 pm

knightron wrote:...
These heavy handed Police assisted tactics by DVLA need a proper and real investigation to establish exactly what their remit and authority is, as I see it they are just another "Agency" like "VOSA"(who need a Police officer to authorize a vehicle stop) and as such have no authority unless we give it to them or are forced to co-operate with them by the Police, under threat of arrest and or assault and imprisonment...

Another travesty of Justice at the hands of a more and more militarized and Thuggish Police force.!


Just like the BBC.

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