koekemoer wrote:so we do agree that there is no automatic right to a phonecall?
strawmansarah wrote::police: PACE is for PERSONS. Read line 1.... I'm not a PERSON. Are you???
holy vehm wrote:koekemoer wrote:so we do agree that there is no automatic right to a phonecall?
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from a freeman perspective strawmansarah is correctstrawmansarah wrote::police: PACE is for PERSONS. Read line 1.... I'm not a PERSON. Are you???
But most customers are not freemen, so is there an automatic right to a call for the average joe?
I would say yes as the request is not put to an inspector who then may or may not grant the call.
There will be certain charges/situations where a procedure takes place.
The risk that the person in the custody suite may attempt to contact another person who may be a suspect is really the only one outside of the anti-terrorism act.
Most customers are entitled to make a phone call themselves upon request and this in most circumstances should be granted.
The reality is that almost all people are denied this right even when there is no outside risk.
The person who makes this decision will be in most cases the custody sergeant who has no authority to do so.
If that officer should make such a decision with no outside risk then the customer should demand that an inspector or above be informed of the officers decision.
... then we need to educate MOST customers.holy vehm wrote:But most customers are not freemen,
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