woodman wrote:Hooplescat wrote:woodman wrote:Hooplescat wrote:assuming you didn't swear, tell them to fuck off, wave your arms at them aggressively or tell them you were going to spark them out I can't see what angle they are coming from. What was the final thing you said immediately before they told you that you were under arrest? Seems like a bit of a cheap shot.
I never swore, told them to FO, or was I in any way aggressive. I said, why have you stopped me? and then I said that I shouldn't have to give my name yet, as I had not been informed as to why I was stopped and I hadn't committed any offence. I was then told that I was coming with them, dragged off and pushed into the van.
The road traffic act covers them for demanding your name - they are allowed to demand it of a car driver, unlike if you are just walking along. But they still have to demonstrate that someone would be likely to be caused harassment alarm or distress to nick you under s5, and by your account you didn't do that. You might have been better not accepting the PND, but I understand why you did.
Aren't you jumping ahead there Hoops, it's polite for a Police Officer to explain who he is, show ID if necessary, explain the reasons for the stop and treat the "person" with respect. Once that had been covered, I would have given my name. In any case, I provided my name and address and date of birth when the Officer asked me a 2nd time, he then said a number of things, before saying he did not believe I was, who I said I was, and slapped on the handcuffs.
After various abuse, I was put in a cell for 4 hours and I wanted out!
I acknowledged reciept of a notice requesting that I must pay £80 or request a hearing and they let me go. Well, I'm not going to pay £80 and I am not going to stand for this legalised terrorism.
I apologise for the tone here, but I'm angry, and right now there are two of the same Police vans parked a few yards away from my house, and I'm not sure why.
Hello mate...I am very much just commenting on the law, not the conduct - It is more than just a point of manners, it is a point of professionalism that the officers should speak to you respectfully, give you their details when asked for them, and generally deal with the situation appropriately - and though they are entitled to check your validity to drive (I know the view on this, I just mean under the RTA) once those details are checked they should thank you for your time and your cooperation. They should have a good reason to disbelieve you before they go dragging you in IMHO
as someone else said, only a traffic car will have video evidence, if it was a plain old ford focus panda it won't have it
big pay out for that id imagine