Subject: Council Tax. A Rational Discussion.
From: Veronica
Date: 2/12/13 8:57 pm
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The Bill of Rights 1689, says:

That all grants and promises of fines and forfeitures of particular persons before conviction are illegal and void;

OK? Got that? In other words, “THE LAW” has no right whatsoever to touch you … UNTIL YOU HAVE BEEN LAWFULLY CONVICTED OF SOME OFFENCE.

Obviously, once you’ve been convicted of something, The Law can come down on you like a ton of bricks.

But before you’ve been ‘convicted’ … you have every Right to expect The Law to leave you alone.

OK, so far?

Now … in panic mode, in 1992 – due to the actions of a few people who went to jail rather than submit to Frau Thatchler’s Poll Tax … the Tories booted her out, installed John Major … who told Michael Heseltine to sort things out ‘sharpish’.

And, what the Heselteenies did, was to run a quick Cut/Paste of the Poll Tax bollox, changing “Community Charge” to “Council Tax”, and come up with the “Local Government Finance Act 1992” bollox.

Now, what does this do?

First of all, it allows the Local Council to send out Council Tax demands every year.

OK, so far?

When you receive the Council Tax demand … have you been CONVICTED of anything?

Errr … no.

You’ve not been CONVICTED of ANYTHING AT ALL.

That all grants and promises of fines and forfeitures of particular persons before conviction are illegal and void;

So … the Council Tax demand is … is what? It’s a “promise of a forfeiture BEFORE CONVICTION” … so the Council Tax Demand is “illegal and void”.

But – notwithstanding the fact the demand is “illegal and void” – what happens if you don’t pay up?

Ooooohhh! RED REMINDER ! Now including some threats & menaces!

You’ve STILL not been CONVICTED of ANYTHING AT ALL.

That all grants and promises of fines and forfeitures of particular persons before conviction are illegal and void;

So what’s the next step?

Oooooohhh! SUMMONS! Summons to a Maggots Circus, who will conduct a “Liability Hearing” … to determine whether or not  - in their eyes – you actually OWE anything.

Now, they will ALWAYS decide that you OWE the money … because “that’s what they do”.

But … have they CONVICTED YOU of anything … just by saying to you: “You should pay this money ... you fucking SCROUNGER!

Errr … no … they’ve not CONVICTED YOU of anything, they’ve simply said that “They expect you to pay up ... somewhat sharpish”. (And that you have the Rights of a Molusc).

And, what's more, YOU’VE NOT, ACTUALLY, DONE ANYTHING WRONG. Simply because, if you paid up … when told to … the matter would close (until next year).

But … supposing you don’t pay up?

Well … eventually the Council will send Bayleafs to relieve you of bits of your property … in other words to “apply forfeitures”.

But, you’ve NOT been CONVICTED of anything, and:

That all grants and promises of fines and forfeitures of particular persons before conviction are illegal and void;

(Are you getting the message?)

Now … if you FAIL to “hold out against the Bayleafs” … and they seize your stuff … THAT WILL END THE MATTER (for this year).

Even though, you’ve NOT been CONVICTED of anything – anything at all - and:

That all grants and promises of fines and forfeitures of particular persons before conviction are illegal and void;

On the other hand if you manage to “hold out against the Bayleafs” … you’ve STILL NOT been CONVICTED of anything!

Now … if you have some ‘property’ (more than one), the next stage will be to sue you for Bankruptcy.

EVEN THOUGH you’ve STILL NOT been CONVICTED of anything!

If you don’t have an property they can STEAL, they have one option left: A Committal Summons.

Which WILL result in a CONVICTION! (I know … it happened to me)

BUT … what happens then? You go to prison. You still haven’t paid (anything).

When I came out, I wrote to the Local Council in 1993, saying “Well … what are you going to do now suckers?

20 years on ... I still await their reply.

In summary: THE CONVICTION WILL SEND YOU TO PRISON.

And EVERYTHING UP TO THAT POINT:

That all grants and promises of fines and forfeitures of particular persons before conviction are illegal and void;

So ... THE RESULTING CONVICTION is because you refused to pay the Sum of NOTHING ... because the DEMAND WAS ILLEGAL AND (hence) VOID. Void means ZERO ... it means "The Amount = 0")

When Frau Thatchler got her minions to create the Poll Tax … they forget to look at the Bill of Rights 1689.

When the Heselteenies did their Cut/Paste, they certainly never bothered to look up the Bill of Rights 1689.

Otherwise there would have been no Poll Tax & no Council Tax.

Simply because … UNTIL YOU HAVE BEEN CONVICTED OF SOMETHING … “The Law” AND “The Legals” have absolutely no Right to do anything other than to LEAVE YOU ALONE.

Vxxx