Subject: Experience at starting a Private Criminal Prosecution
From: Veronica
Date: 20/11/13 10:50 pm
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From Michael ... who received this e-mail today:

"I attended Magistrates Court today to lay an information for Theft after we got mugged off yesterday by the Black clad Stormtroopers. I did this after reading about what you [Michael] did, and the court confirmed that they know of your [Michael's] case, up here in Nottingham.  

We arrived at 1200 to speak to the court staff, and were stood before a District Judge at 2.15pm who gave us 20 minutes of the courts time to hear and discuss what we had to say.  We did not succeed in getting the application granted for reasons explained in great detail by the Judge, who was sitting alone, rather than a Stipendiary Magistrate or a bench of 3 middle class busybodies.  

The judge confirmed that if we come back with the necessary evidence (we were lacking in part) to satisfy the test for reasonable prospect of conviction, then he will be happy to hear any further application and that our case is in no way barred.  This was the closest thing to justice that we have experienced throughout the whole situation and I feel satisfied that he was sympathetic and was doing everything he could short of giving us legal advice, to ensure that we were armed with the necessary means to pursue the case.  

This was surprisingly easy and an uplifting experience and if more people get to hear about how very simple this is, then perhaps the people can begin to control an out of control police force who have forgotten Peel's 7th principal of policing - "To maintain at all times a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and that the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen, in the interests of community welfare and existence"  I have no doubt that the officers I dealt with in the case were recruited after the educational, fitness and height restrictions were abolished to allow substandard applicants to succeed where they otherwise would not have not have, after left wing think tanks introduced the sort of quotas and working environment that allowed the likes of Ali Desai(*) to become a senior police officer.  

If  police officer does not agree with what you say, they go into passive aggressive or bully mode.  The judge on this occasion simply explained how we needed to meet the high standard of proof needed and for that I am forever indebted to him for his approach."

(* I'm not sure it is fair to describe Ali Desai in those terms)

And that is, overall - Cambridge & Stevenage Magistrates Courts excepted - what I have observed & experienced.

Which means that we can now include Luton, Westminster, Uxbridge, Milton Keynes and now Nottingham (and Clapham Junction) in the list of Magistrates Courts that know how to handle a Private Prosecution request. (Possibly even Hereford).

The important thing is to NOT waste their time if you don't have the evidence.

However, if you have all the evidence, there's really nothing to stop you.

Certainly DO NOT BE AFRAID of "discussing it with a Judge". If you are in "prosecution mode", and remain polite (even if they refuse ...as above!), their attitude towards you is completely different.

As I said in the write-up: http://info.fmotl.com/PrivateProsecutions.htm ... "short of giving you actual legal advice" ... they may even explain what you'd have to do in order to succeed (as has been said, above).

It's even quite possible that Michael would have succeeded in Cambridge, if the Clerk of the Court, and the "Security" Guards had understood their jobs.

Vxxx