They want us to be ‘subject’ their Orders. They want us to carry out their Orders without question.
Liability Orders are generally the starter for anything. This is generally created by the ‘rubber stamp’ method.
Up till now we have been fighting this phase with the Common Sense in our letters. And we are generally ignored … and the rubber stamp comes down, no matter what.
Note: The VERY FIRST STAGE of, for example, Council Tax, is the gaining of a Liability Order (by the Council). The first stage of a ‘debt’ situation is for a Protagonist to obtain a Liability Order.
Without you being ‘liable to pay’ nothing can happen. Once you have been found ‘liable to pay’, the sky can fall in on you.
BUT WAIT! A Liability Order is an ORDER. And I have been thinking about Orders. I say in my book that Orders are ‘chargeable’. AND SO THEY ARE. And the price for ‘servicing any Order’ is set by WHOEVER CARRIES OUT that service.
Now, ‘they’ will argue that no-one has the right to charge for carrying out THEIR Orders.
Errr … ‘scuse me? What is so special about their Orders … the ones that emanate from a PRIVATE COMPANY, actively trading for a profit, claiming LIMITED LIABILITY FOR THEMSELVES … who whom WE HAVE NO CONTRACT????
So, we are talking “absurd” from the get-go.
But wait! I’ve just realised … it gets better if you think a bout it!
They will be thinking of the Military … where Servicemen are ordered to do something – and the Serviceman obeys without question. And without sending an Invoice requesting payment.
They will be thinking of the Police Forces … where a Policyman carries out his orders without question. And without sending an Invoice requesting payment.
They will be thinking of the Company scenario, whereby employees are ‘told what to do’, and the ‘just do it’. And without sending an Invoice requesting payment.
This is all very true.
So the principle that people can be ORDERED AROUND, and be forced to obey without question & without payment for service is well-established, isn’t it?
Well … the problem ‘they’ have is: “No, that does not establish that principle”.
And here’s why: What have the Serviceman, the Policyman, and the Company Employee all got in common?
The answer is: They took the job, AND THEY GET PAID FOR DOING THAT JOB, WHICH INVOLVES SERVICING ORDERS.
THEY GET PAID FOR CARRYING OUT THE ORDERS THAT ARE A PART OF THEIR JOB.
The fact that they do it for a flat salary does not detract from the fact that they do it for payment. By taking the job they agree (consent) to carry out orders for a flat payment … usually per month … and without the need to send Invoices.
That’s all. Nothing more than that.
Servicing ANY Order … issued by ANYONE … and ANY circumstance … is chargeable.
In the instances I’ve quoted above, the charge is fixed (per month). The salary. Taking the job means “consenting to service all orders given for the salary at the end of the month”.
Is this not true?
I think it is.
Therefore if a Liability Order is rubber-stamped against you, why not write back saying “Thank you for your recent Order. My charge for servicing that Order will be £nnn (cash with Order). Do you wish me to service your Order for that fee? If so, then please send me a cheque for £nnn, and I will send back a cheque for £mmm. (This quotation is only valid for thirty (30) days). Are you prepared to pay – “Yes” or “No”? I will take your silence to mean acquiescence as: “No, you are not prepared to pay” and, in doing so, that you are (as a civilised consequence i.e. under the obvious rules of civilised, peaceful, co-existence between parties) rescinding your Order.”
(In point of fact I have actually done this myself with on of my PCNs. No reply at the time of writing, November 2009)
… where “mmm” is the demand … and “nnn” = “mmm” + £50 Service Charge.
And, if they argue, point out what I have said above … about Orders.
THEY ACTUALLY DO NOT HAVE A LEG TO STAND ON!!
Nary a one!
There is no-one they can point to who ‘services Orders’ for free. Even the Military, etc don’t actually do it for free. Do you think any Serviceman would work for free?
We don’t work for the Military. We all live in the real world. Littlewoods Mail Order, Freemans Mail Order, Argos, Waitrose, shops, etc. all live in the real world.
In the real world an Order is chargeable. Try to get something of substance free from Sainsbury’s!!!
EVEN IN THE UNREAL WORLD of the Policymen, Military, JUDICIARY, Companies etc – servicing an Order requires payment (even if fixed by salary). None of these people work for nothing.
To assume that an Order can by ‘just carried out for free’ is part & parcel of The Grand Deception.
It’s long past time everyone woke up about this.
Fine … let them use their rubber stamp! Then write back offering to carry it out for a fee.
Use this argument on the Bailiffs as well.
And the Policymen.